It would be good to let people knowā¦
Being that I still see 0 sales. Itās not really making much of a difference.
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Even if Iāve already made much investment in buying packs I wouldnāt mind, if the chances to get VR and highers would encrease even for free players! just saying 
The changes we made were for the amateur series and the notifacation was posted in a different forum thread (about that topic) as well as Facebook and Twitter.
saddened. seems like you just canāt get the very rare anymore. I am stuck on 83% of several series and have 35 duplicates and 14 of the same card. Hardly seems worth keeping coming - just canāt close a seriesā¦ I enjoyed it for a year, made it to Getty today. Probably thatās enough huhā¦
Basically I sit at 80% complete for every new series and hope other people will pull ER/VRs so I can trade for them. Iām pretty sure the fact that it is necessary for purchases to be made ruins the system. Neither people who spent money before the change, nor people who didnāt, want to be forced into spending money to finish a series. It also feels like any series that isnāt very popular is going to forever be basically impossible to complete, there are no cards in rotation and the capacity for there to be will be over in due time.
This is NOT an incentive to spend money. This is incentive to stop trying. āFree to Playā systems shouldnāt depend on money to finish any given element of it. People who spend money should be able to complete more series, people who do not should have to be a lot more choosy about which they want to prioritize. As it is many people will struggle to complete a series they have collected over its entire 6 month duration and that is ridiculous. On top of that, like other have pointed out, there is no sense of luck and chance that keeps people coming back. You either open free packs and have near-zero odds of opening high rarity cards you need or spend money and are guaranteed high rarity cards, which does not produce the same satisfaction as opening them from a regular pack.
By this I can only assume you mean that we should all lower our expectations by a lot? Its great that people like you have been and are still willing to spend money. The community depends on people like you. But without people who arenāt, there wonāt be a community. I get that there should be a cost and NM deserves to get paid of course, but you have to see that we arenāt just rejecting this system because it revolves around spending money. It does not constitute a healthy community, no one is trading, and daily visits are boring and repetitive. You know exactly what you will get going in.
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I will show You my stats of one of the series
- Oriental Era-Womenās Beauty:
Commons 3/3:
53 x Hopefulness
58 x Graceful
60 x Scar
Uncommons 3/3:
23 x Gracious
34 x Cloudless
21 x Summer
Rares 3/3:
19 x Curiosity
17 x Spirit
17 x Entertainer
Very Rares 2/2:
2 x Mesmerize
2 x Modest
Extremely Rares 0/2:
NONE
Chases 0/14:
NONE
Who will beat this? 
I really want to get rid of these duplicatesā¦
I used to have series with no duplicates (because of trading cards). It looked more āorderlyā, ācleanā 
Now itās totally impossible. I truly want to have something like ācard eraserā or just simple trash.
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The most Iāve seen of a common card owned was 94 for Oriental Era: Womenās Beauty for the card āHopefulnessā 
but granted, he has completed the core cards.
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Collector for 3+ years.
First, a couple of admissions:
- I havenāt read everyoneās comments. Most, but not all ā only because there are so many ā so excuse me if someone has already made the suggestion I make here.
- I pretty much qualify as a starving artist at this point, so I must admit I have not spent any money on my collection. This fact has kept me quiet to this point. I guess Iām a little bit humbled by my circumstances.
- I am disappointed at the new changes, just like most of the group.
Ok. Those things said, Iāve enjoyed neonmob very much. Having to collect using only free cards has taught me how to use the site. Since I am a freelance designer/art director/UI designer, Iāve gone to school on neonmob. It has helped me to watch it develop and I am proud to have been able to give useful feedback here and there. The fact that neonmob has listened to my user feedback makes me think they have good intentions.
I donāt know anyone from neonmob personally. I donāt know what challenges they face, although we can guess that profitability is a big one. But I have a good feeling about them. After all, they made a place where all of us can publish our artistic efforts and where we can collect and trade other peopleās artistic accomplishments. While none of my work has made it, I tip my hat to the fantistic work that lives on this site.
Anyway, as Iāve been thinking about the current state of neonmob, it struck me that the one thing we all have in common is that we appreciate art. We make art because it is in our soul, not just because we are trying to make a living at it. So, one way we might be able to help save/solidify/return neonmob to itās former greatness as a great trading platform is to give back. What if each of us gave the site a set of our own work to feature? Free. Just replenish itās coffers so it can enjoy some breathing space and be encouraged to return to when it had things right.
Think about it, ok?
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So, one way we might be able to help save/solidify/return neonmob to itās former greatness as a great trading platform is to give back. What if each of us gave the site a set of our own work to feature? Free. Just replenish itās coffers so it can enjoy some breathing space and be encouraged to return to when it had things right.[/quote]
So instead of giving NM 70% of 0, artists should give them 100% of 0?
I donāt think itās a lack of artwork selection thatās making this site sufferā¦
After reading the thread, it seemed to me the two issues were:
- a change of odds for those of us depending on freebies and
- a change from limited to unlimited numbers in the sets.
My suggestion was intended to offer another alternative to those drastic changes by giving the platform a large number of sets to release over time. I realize this is an anti-capitalistic idea. It wouldnāt bother me if anyone trying to make money by selling work on the platform skipped donating a set. But per the thread, it seems like creators arenāt having success anyway, so why not pitch in for just one set. Maybe small sets? I know it is work. Iām a creator, too, and I am familiar with how hard it is to make a living in the current economy.
But my suggestion was that collectors like me could pitch in because we like the platform.
You may be right that this will not solve the systemic issues. It may only be my heart-felt effort to support this platform. I think it is a fantastic one and well worth saving. I hate to see collectors abandon it, but I know it is happening. There are names Iāve followed since the early days that now are graded āFā.
I am involved in a startup (over five years now and have yet to see a dime), so I must admit that my heart is with the principals behind neonmob, who I imagine have shelled out a lot of cash without much return.
There have been good suggestions on the thread. I hope there are more. I hope the neonmob workers, principals and backers donāt give up.
Nope. Theyāre paying starving artists like you even less and making the ability to complete collections either incredibly difficult or outright impossible. Trading is no longer a common thing, and NeonMob seems to, frankly, not care unless the changes are minute ones - those changes took forever to implement after the staff continually ignored complaints. Rather that actually advertising (theyāve done nothing as far as actually advertising their product to outsiders), they made drastic changes and lied to users saying it was because people couldnāt complete series (and hey, we canāt complete series anymore unless we feel like shelling out money, hundreds of we expect to finish a large set).
In reality, the creators are no longer having success because people are either refusing to spend money here (like me, because the new changes make no sense) or leaving. The responsibility of keeping the site afloat is Neonmobās staff, not the artists and collectors.
Itās difficult to want to invest in a site that is going downhill - I think itās a little too late - hope isnāt going to restore the site to what it was, or even further it.
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Thereās no point in release a large number of sets if most collectors wonāt be able to finish 3 in a month.
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Someone asked a couple of months back what the red line on the forum means, and it says ālast visitā now. Trading is still broken, but we know what that line means. Yippee!
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What change theyāve made!!
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I just started collecting cards on neonmob yesterday. I started on the āBeautiful Wishes IIā set. Within a 30 hour period, I have more than 50% of the set complete. Iām not seeing any issues with the system as far as trading-pack openings go.
I do see that your post sparked some comments about people not being content with their free content. They forget, the people who buy the packs run the platform because they pay for the platform. Of course itās difficult to complete a set for free and if it is a set you like, get some credits and get more packs to complete it.
Odds of getting rares and higher have improved significantly since the original post of this thread. āOldā sets had limited card counts and ānewā sets have a limited time availability period. Thatās one of the problems that made it difficult to gauge card value.
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Welcome to the site! 
Yes, the rates were adjusted to increase the drop rate of the rarer cards. When this post was originally written, you would often get the entire set of Common and Uncommon cards multiple times over before youād even see a Rare+ card drop. And Chases? Forget about it. It was pretty much impossible to ever get a full set by opening only the free packs when the system was changed.
I do support the site by buying packs when Iām able to, but thatās not always an option for me.
With the current system of time-based availability, I must admit that Iāve spent more on credits than in the old limited card count system.
I put much more of a premium on cards with low print numbers, so I try to get as many low print numbers as I can when a series that I like gets released. I donāt necessarily like it because itās much easier to miss the time window if Iām at work or not awakeāitās just how my collecting habits have changed.
I really enjoyed the old system where when someone pulled all commons in a pack, you knew the chances of getting a higher rarity literally increased for everyone else. In that system, though, I only bought credits when the free packs were all sold out.
Previously, it was worth it to keep opening packs if you almost completed the set, because you could get duplicates with lower print numbers. Now I stop opening packs if the set is almost completed because I can just complete it by trading and I can only get higher print numbers. But I donāt, because itās a lot of effort to find the right trading partners. 
Before I read anything, anyone want to summarize the overhaul? Iāve been quite busy
edit: I have read a few comments. NOw I understand why Iām backed up on series.
Me before september: aimed to complete series. did mostly medium series anywhere from 10 to 60 cards. 4 or less chases increased chances of me collecting. would work on about 7-9 series a day (no life meta)
Me around september: series a day dropped to about 3 minimum. sometimes 5 if i got on again before 3am est
Me October 6th-7th: lost 90 day streak. I got on maplestory in anticipation of ms2. simply forgot to log into nm. Trades still around every now and then.
Me since then: struggled to remember to turn in my packs everyday. currently on a 4 day streak. only around trades since Oct 10th. My friend I was grooming as my NM successor completely forgot about NM until i mentioned it yesterday.
My usual routine before sep was to exclusively work on a group of series I liked for base completion and sometimes chases (under 4).
now I ignore all things new until I finished. because. Iām not. Iām simply not.
I countered a trade before checking here, put an old common on the other guyās side for a rare on mine. I went back and undid it and told him if he wants to he can recounter it back in, but Iād understand if he wants to keep that 2 year old print lol